the conflict seems obvious: most of the beneficial extra-hours coding described in this thread wouldn't have been possible at a job which legit required 12 hours a day of day-job coding work https://twitter.com/sarah_edo/status/1198713471161884672

we must reject roles which require it and avoid asking it of our people

but naturally some of what we spend our time on outside of work will benefit our careers in ways we can and cannot anticipate...