BTS SHADOW COMEBACK THEORIES: A THREAD

the lights mv and bwl mv are centered around a cinema. the army zip case is a slate. also in the army zip, the poster you get looks like a movie poster. the whole theme of the army zip looks like a superhero movie...
‘shadow’ is about their shadows and darker personas. maybe it +

will be about them going ‘inside the movie’ (?) and facing their inner selves, which are a lot darker than the versions of themselves they show to everyone else. we all keep saying this cb will be darker and i really think it will be... shadow is about our true ‘shadow.’ the +

self that never sees the light of day. boy with luv was very happy and upbeat and it’s represents out ‘persona,’ the version of ourself we show to everyone; the version of yourself that’s happy and seemingly perfect.
also in the bwl mv, there’s a part during namjoon’s rap +

where in the background you see his shadow trapped in a cage. i don’t really think the color of shadow will be purple (i think they’ll save that for the last album) but a darker shade of blue.
also a recurring word is ‘hero.’ the word is a big part of the army zip too. maybe +

the title track will be that and about how it’s ok to not be happy all the time and to have darker moments. and we can use bts as our ‘hero’ and save ourselves. OR bts use army as their ‘hero’ and we save them. typically the last song of one of their albums leads into the theme +

of the next. dionysus was a very rock heavy and intense song. the next album could have that theme (i hope so!!)
i think it would be fitting if they release news about the cb around halloween and drop a spooky and dark video and the actual cb is late november.
if the cb is +

late november it makes sense bc mama is late november and so is jingle ball. a comeback at jingle ball is perfect!!! it also allows txt some time to promote. their november schedule is free and december it resumes. in the past, they always announce new cbs when tours ends. +

their past cbs have been very consistent as well. the ALWAYS cb on a friday. they also always release cb info one month before. so for a november cb that leaves november 15, 22, and 29. an intro on halloween would be perfect if it’s a darker theme. that would mean the cb for +

the 15 of november? and it’s almost awards season so a late november cb is not ideal. in my opinion, november 15 or 22 is a perfect date. that would possibly be the intro on halloween and give them enough time before major award shows start. there’s been rumors that bighit +

trademarked the word ‘shadow’ for the next cb as well hhmmm

i’ll add more if i think of anything else

so maybe the army zip could be for halloween? that would work especially if it’s dark and creepy

the heartbeat awards hosted by vlive air on november 16! if bts cb on the 15 that would be good to have their cb stage there... but i also feel like they would have their cb stage at jingle ball or a bigger event in the us (like they had their bwl cb stage on snl)

going back to where i said bighit registered shadow... i found this pic. it could be real? or someone trying to get attention who knows but thought i’d include it...

new theory!!! ( @jimindasilva said something under this thread that was amazing so i asked if i could include it)
at the concerts jk and some of the others kept saying i’m a bad boy and tae said i’m a good boy on snl. i wouldn’t put it last bighit to use that as a hint. also in +

the army zip trailer some of them look good and others bad. for example, yoongi looks like a baseball player and taehyung looks bad and he’s holding a gun. what if the next cb and mv is centered around some of them being the ‘good’ guys and others being the ‘bad’ guys. some of +

them are hero’s and others not? we already know taehyung is depicted as a fallen angel in the bst mv. he looks to be a ‘bad’ character. also in the japanese version of bst he stabs jin. jin is one of the ‘good’ guys and is trying to save the others and be their HERO.

we definitely won’t get any info about bts cb until txt cb is over. bighit wouldn’t have their two groups have a cb the same time.
preorders for mots dropped a few days after txt debuted. so i’m expecting some info after txt cb. also jk just cut his hair so they could be filming

THIS!!!! this whole time we thought txt was apart of the bts performance for for experience with peroforming but it could very well be that it’s also a part of the storyline!!! ( @sunmoon53290864) https://twitter.com/sunmoon53290864/status/1184556149640744961?s=21

https://twitter.com/sunmoon53290864/status/1184557014405529600?s=21

the boys have been so quiet ever since they got back from vacation. they’ve only tweeted for jimins bday.. before the bwl cb they went almost radio silent on twitter for a few weeks. but so much other content dropped like bangtan bombs and stuff. that’s what happens before a cb.

my new comeback prediction:
preorders for new album drop the day after txts cb, on october 21. the actual cb would be friday, november 29. going back to where i said they always cb on a friday...
also persona preorders dropped the day after txt debuted. they’ll be able to do +

3-4 days of promotions in sk, then have to fly to us for jingle ball and perform new songs. since it’s in la, they’ll probably do some late shows since it’s been a while.
this also fits perfectly with their schedule

ALSO OMG

hyyh part 2 was released on november 29 as well!!! it would fit perfectly with the bu if they release the next album on november 29.
and i’ve been thinking about their concept... all boy groups are doing a dark emo concept. bts don’t do what everyone else does. +

they’ll do something different. i could see them doing music like the hyyh era. kinda like run/save me/i need u. as well as some more fun tracks like dope and fire.

i’m just gonna say it,,,,
jungkookie cute his hair since they’re going back to the hyyh era and he has to look like he did then :(
also they do highlight reels every new series. so i’m expecting some highlight reels or short films for this comeback

in the mv heartbeat, jin is seen in front of a whale. in hyyh part 2 they have a song called whalien 52. and that album was released 11/29/15. also they’ve been hinting at the hyyh era for a while. at the fact music awards the phrase “youth is never coming back” was on the screen

in the song intro: persona a line says “my shadow, i wrote and called it ‘hesitation.’”
in the album love yourself: her there’s a hidden track called “skit:hesitation and fear.” the track is them reminiscing and talking about how they don’t want to +

show us fake ‘personas’ and want to be real
the link:

really thinking about that november 29 cb date..... definitely a HUGE possibility.
they released preorder for mots: persona a within the week after txt debut. txt cb tomorrow. within the week after that, i’m watching for info about bts cb. the mir remix is also a huge push for +

grammy and to be more in the gp attention. a way to say they’re still making moves and active (army know they are though). cns was almost a month ago and the mir remix was friday. it would be perfect for them to do cb info a few weeks after the promo and attention from that. +

and they’re doing an ask anything chat for iheartradio. the chat is on the november 2. kinda odd they’d do that for the mir remix almost three weeks after the release... it could very well be they do preorders for shadow before then....

the cover art for mir, there’s a person fighting a dragon. the dragon represents the ego.
remember that pic that leaked from the people who designed mots:p? they’re were korean words in order. the order was: persona, ego, shadow, self.
ego came BEFORE shadow. maybe ego is next?

ego comes immediately after persona. we must first face,
PERSONA: how we present ourself to others.
EGO: how we want to appear to others.
SHADOW: the parts of us we never show to anyone.
SELF: our true self; all of us.

ALSO!!!!

a new book is coming soon titled,
Map of the Soul: Shadow

this definitely has significance and i’m so excited!

according to Carl Jung, the dragon represents our ego and evil. also it’s a representation of the positive of the embodiment of good, which is God. so that would be the Devil. knowledge is power, and with power comes a greater ego; therefore, a greater evil inside us. +

we see a figure slaying a dragon in the mir cover art. also in the idol mv there’s a picture of a dragon seen multiple times.

taehyung’s character in the bangtan universe seems to be ‘evil.’ for example, he kills his father in the storyline; appears to be a psychopath in the japanese version of bs&t; and represents the fallen angel in the bs&t mv. it’s mentioned that he sees the future of the +

alternate universes in his dreams. this is a knowledge. and we see that he tends to be very psychotic at times in the story. (if you’ve read the webtoon save me, remember the ending?)
on the other hand, we have jin, who seems to represent ‘good.’ he tried to save the others; +

he sacrifices his life and happiness for them. in the end of the bs&t mv his face cracks. this could mean that he could end up dying or withering away. in the story, it’s shown that each time he travels back in time he loses his memory, this is why he keeps a journal.
in bs&t +

jin kisses the fallen angel statue, which represents taehyung. so if jin represents ‘good’ and taehyung represents ‘evil,’ this would be like a collision between good and evil.

there’s been RUMORS that the boys were supposed to have a cb the end of this year, but with txt postponing their cb and issues with the contract with Columbia, they’re pushing it to early 2020?
i looked at naver articles and found this info - it’s not official!

txt cb today!!!!
i’m looking out for the 21 and 22 for bts cb news! also the 28 and 29...
that would be perfect for a november 29 comeback

MAMA is november 30 that would be a perfect cb stage. especially since they did the last cb stage on snl, which is a us show. it makes sense this one would be in sk. it’s like their way of saying we don’t need western validation.

the boys have been so quietly lately. you know what that means that’s what they do before a cb. only one or two tweets a week, just like they’re saying hey we’re still here. i’m expecting to not get anything for the next little bit IF they’re dropping cb info soon. news +

within the week, and radio silence from the boys. also looking out for army zip which could tie in with the cb info? expecting army zip around halloween since the theme is spookier. the final is soon. i’m thinking cb news either right before or right after. i remember the +

concert right after mots:p preorder released, they used it as an opportunity to say please look foward to it and build hype. the final would be a great way to do that. they can make us anticipate the next cb even more if they talk about it.

OK NEW THEORY!!!!!!
the final dates are as follows: october 26 - saturday, 27 - sunday, and 29 - tuesday. the thought hit me, why skip a date? why wait for the 29, and not do three days in a row? (i get they could be doing this so they have a day for rest!)
weply released info +

about the final. they said that other events will be going on. what if they skipped the 28 because at 12 pm kst they’re going to release something? the 28 is on a monday. typically they release cb news on a monday or even tuesday sometimes.
releasing comeback news on the 28 +

goes perfectly with the november 29 cb timeline! that’s pretty much a month apart.

here’s some stuff we know right now:
•the ask anything chat is november 2. cb info on october 28 would go perfect with that! they’d be able to promote it.
•they’ve been pushing the mir remix hard. it’s the perfect way to gain more popularity with gp and get mots:persona +

hyped for grammy noms. also it’s a good way to increase hype about the next album.
•a grammy cb stage is highly unlikely, sadly. even mainstream western artists can’t perform songs that aren’t nominated. i definitely want them to perform and think they will! just a song off +

of persona.
•honestly, do you really think bts won’t go out with a bang this year? they always bring the unexpected. they always try to end the year with something special. even if it’s not a comeback, something will happen. they’re popularity with the gp has increased so +

much with persona cb, they’ll want to keep the hype going.
•jingle ball - as far as i know, it’s not broadcasted so it’s out for a comeback stage. it would still be a good place to perform songs off the new album though, just not a cb stage. it’s december 6. if they cb on +

november 29, that still gives them time to promote other places before then.
•the mma - held on november 30. it’s not officially announced they’re going, but it’s highly likely since their schedule is free and mma posted something about bts. now with everything going on with +

how the boys have been mistreated by western media (and even korean media sadly) i could see them having a cb stage in korea. they are such humble people! they never forget their roots and culture. also the bwl cb stage was in the us, on the show snl. the one before that, fake +

love cb stage, was at the bbmas 2018. i just could see them saying they want to have a cb stage in korea since it’s been a while. it would be a way if them saying they don’t need western validation, and show everyone they’re still humble people.

OK BUT APPARENTLY MAJOR RUMORS FROM PRETTY RELIABLE KOREAN MEDIA SOURCES, COMEBACK INFO VERY VERY SOON!!!!!

(i’d still take this with a grain of salt, bc they said it’s just rumors, but it’s probably true. the sources were as reliable as you can get)

hmmmm still thinking about a november 29 cb.... it goes perfectly with following the hyyh timeline.

for the army zip we get two more movie posters on the 23 at 7pmkst. then the final three posters on the 24.
then the army zip after that it looks like? that would mean maybe it starts shipping on the 25 of october or something.
also remember the bwl mv? there was a date. +

10.25, which is october 25.
that prediction that came out that said either preorders, announcement or an actual cb on october 25. they won’t have a cb that day since it’s so soon, but they could drop info about it. and all the other predictions came true. they said other +

albums by other groups would drop a certain day and they all came to be true...
maybe we get cb info the 25? or we get the army zip the 25. then on the 28 (going back to my previous theory) we get cb info? either of those dates go +

perfectly with a november 29 cb.
the more i think about it, the more i really think we’re getting some major soon. the boys have said they’re in the studio, namjoon changed his hair, jungkook cut his hair, they’ve been fairly quiet....

cb news on october 25, 99%.
if that doesn’t happen, the 28. definitely feel like it’ll be the 25. something big is coming. korean media and accounts who have inside sources are predicting it.

bts next album has been ready for “...quite some time” and they’re just waiting for the right time to release it, “...in light of getting other things in their schedule set up accordingly.” we should expect news in the next week. or if it doesn’t happen, cb is in the new year.

bts are rumored to be part of the sbs gayo daejun lineup. the awards should be sometime in december, i believe?
why would they perform if they didn’t have anything new to perform? a cb before awards season is perfect

PREDICTIONS:

october 25: army zip more teasers (?)
october 28: preorders for shadow
october 31: army zip kit
november 4: cb trailer
november 29: shadow comeback

the army zip posters say 2020.01. maybe that’s when they ship out or we might get videos for it ?
still need to get highligh reels for this era. maybe they have something to do with each other?

bighit always announce comeback info on a monday or tuesday so october 28 comeback info.
they always do preorders the following wednesday. so preorders october 30? that could be like our “halloween gift”
then army zip on the 25 along with videos?

bts had a comeback exactly 38 days after txt debut earlier this year. if they do that again, exactly 38 days after txt cb is november 29.
bts have no schedule on november 29 as well.
much to think about...

still REALLY thinking about a november comeback.... it makes a lot of sense and has so many facts to back it up.
bighit never address the rumors about a january cb. all the hints that dropped at the concert and vcrs. the day break in the 28th. it matches their schedule. +

different hair. a comeback on november 29 will still be eligible for awards for the 2019 season. january cb just doesn’t like the best strategy in my opinion, especially in the us. maybe we’ll get highlight reels in january and the next album before then?

what if the 24 was referring to the day august d 2 drops?
in the boy with luv mv, during yoongis rap, he steps on piano keys. and the keys where the A key and D key. what if he’s hinting that agust d 2 is coming soon.

i originally thought this album would be like the hyyh era, but now i think it’ll go back to the wings era. so many hints dropped in the concert vcrs.
hoseok had the intro for the wings album - boy meets evil. what if hobi does the intro for shadow, and we have it all wrong?

THEMES i’m noticing for the next comeback:

shadows
butterfly shadow with their hands
planets/space
saturn
the color red
darker colors
feathers (alluding to wings)
nods to hyyh era and wings era
time!
time travel/stopping time
hourglass
light (goes hand in hand with shadow)

bighit never addressed the rumors of the january comeback. in the phone interview with radio disney when asked about the plans for the rest of 2019, joon said “i really can’t say....” there is also rumors that shadow has been done for a while.
what if we get a mini album +

before the year is over, then a repackage in the first quarter of 2020? that was what the january rumors were about? there were seven months between ly:her and ly:tear, both of which are mini albums. then three months between tear and answer.

LOOK AT THIS!!!!! so smart and well put together! https://twitter.com/tracir0706_/status/1188572606695460869?s=21

she has the best theories omg https://twitter.com/tracir0706_/status/1188656582860644352?s=21

the arms in the vcr look like the shape they do during the bwl chorus. the one arm bent up, one bent down.
it‘s like a stiff imitation or shadow. maybe the choreo for the next title track will incorporate that move since it’ll be the darker ‘shadow’ of our personas.