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"Indonesians weren't immigrants because Malaysia and Indonesia were one"
How many times have we heard this myth from supremacists? Let me explain why it isn't true
https://twitter.com/almightyfreddy/status/1181034482775674880?s=19
How many times have we heard this myth from supremacists? Let me explain why it isn't true
https://twitter.com/almightyfreddy/status/1181034482775674880?s=19
In the simplest sense, the modern nation-states of Malaysia and Indonesia are post-colonial entities and were obviously never one. Modern Indonesia stretches all the way to Papua and modern Malaysia includes parts of Borneo
No kingdom or country in the region ever included those areas. But what the supremacists are trying to refer to is often some historical empire like Majapahit or Srivijaya
Majapahit was a Javanese empire that made Malay kingdoms submit and pay tribute. The rulers of old Melaka must be turning in their graves every time some "proud Malay" pretends that Melaka was part of Majapahit
And what is empire really? Bringing separate polities under your rule is what the British colonists did. Are Malays and Brits now one race too?
Srivijaya was a Malay empire based in Sumatra. Maybe this could be seen as a sort of proto-Malaysia? But Srivijaya didn't include Sulawesi from where the Bugis originated, or even all of Borneo
Did the British split the archipelago in two? No actually we did enough of the splitting ourselves. Srivijaya died out in the Middle Ages. Majapahit fell later, and the colonists weren't involved
The dominant power in the peninsula when the Europeans arrived was Melaka. Again, Melaka's rule didn't include the whole peninsula nor did it extend to Borneo. Modern Malaysia is not a continuation of Srivijaya
What the colonists did was divide Johor, the last Malay "superpower", one might say. This was truly what split the Malay world, and put the spice trade in European hands https://twitter.com/uglyluhan/status/1129674796013252609?s=19
But wait, what about that "Malay world" I just mentioned? Malay in this case is referring to an ethnicity. Johor was a Malay kingdom, but not every kingdom in Indonesia was Malay
How about the much-loved Alam Melayu which can be taken as far as the Pacific Islands? This was a translation from the English term "Malay world". No such pan-Austronesian concept existed before colonisation https://twitter.com/uglyluhan/status/1100657964262674432?s=19
But aren't all people from the archipelago Malay anyway? No, it's a diverse area with many ethno-linguistic groups. "Race" is a colonial European invention. Malay is an ethnicity. There is no Malay race https://twitter.com/uglyluhan/status/1100658349849272320?s=19
But all are speakers of Austronesian languages right?
Language families aren't a basis for nativism. The Turkic language family goes all the way from Turkey to Siberia but its speakers are not a single people. A Turk can't just walk into Siberia and say "comrade I'm one of you"
Language families aren't a basis for nativism. The Turkic language family goes all the way from Turkey to Siberia but its speakers are not a single people. A Turk can't just walk into Siberia and say "comrade I'm one of you"
But Malay was used as a lingua franca in the region right? Yeah, and French was used in the same way in medieval Europe. It doesn't make all Europeans French http://theconversation.com/in-medieval-britain-if-you-wanted-to-get-ahead-you-had-to-speak-french-73164
But but what about Tanah Melayu?
That term just meant kingdoms that came under Melaka. It didn't extend beyond the peninsula, Riau, and parts of Sumatra. It also didn't include Kelantan and most northern states. I already did a whole thread on it https://twitter.com/uglyluhan/status/1064455992446861312?s=19
That term just meant kingdoms that came under Melaka. It didn't extend beyond the peninsula, Riau, and parts of Sumatra. It also didn't include Kelantan and most northern states. I already did a whole thread on it https://twitter.com/uglyluhan/status/1064455992446861312?s=19
But Indonesians were still here before pendatang like those Chinese and Indians right?
There were Indonesians here from before, just as there were Peranakan Indians and Chinese here at the time https://twitter.com/uglyluhan/status/1129664350745006080?s=19
There were Indonesians here from before, just as there were Peranakan Indians and Chinese here at the time https://twitter.com/uglyluhan/status/1129664350745006080?s=19
Granted, immigrant communities before colonisation often thought of their ancestral land as their home, especially the Chinese. But many still settled in and never went back. Indonesians were never considered extra native https://twitter.com/uglyluhan/status/1129677293486452736?s=19
Also, the majority of Indonesian ethnicities in Malaysia only arrived during the colonial era, sometimes even later. This was no earlier than most Chinese and Indians https://twitter.com/uglyluhan/status/1100660360409800706?s=19
But but but kozi said immigration from within the archipelago is more "natural".
If you have to use such abstract concepts as that, you're clutching at straws. Look at where we are on the map
If you have to use such abstract concepts as that, you're clutching at straws. Look at where we are on the map
Our location is what made the country so diverse. It's no coincidence this area was such an important trading hub. Contact with other parts of Asia goes back over a millennia for a reason. There's nothing unnatural about it
Well at least Indonesian immigrants assimilated and became Malay, unlike the pendatang.
That's mostly a modern phenomenon. In earlier times, the Javanese villages still practiced their own culture and language. The loss of that distinctness is not something we should be proud of
That's mostly a modern phenomenon. In earlier times, the Javanese villages still practiced their own culture and language. The loss of that distinctness is not something we should be proud of
Funnily enough, Mahathir is the naturalised descendant of Indian Muslims, yet the racists stil call him Madey Kutty. If becoming "Malay" was all it took, why is his ancestry even brought up?
https://www.sinarharian.com.my/politik/anak-iskandar-kutty-tetap-jadi-sanjungan-1.711545
https://www.sinarharian.com.my/politik/anak-iskandar-kutty-tetap-jadi-sanjungan-1.711545
I think that covers all the arguments used by supremacists. History is not on your side. If all you got left at this point is "learn history" like this racist turd, then you've already lost so just shut up
https://twitter.com/ReducerSonic/status/1181181798325223426?s=19
https://twitter.com/ReducerSonic/status/1181181798325223426?s=19
