Thread time. okie dokie. Lets get on talking about @TheOnyxPath and their latest kickstarter. The model of funding they use, and how they just don't really care. I'll note the scion 2E kickstarter is the last product by them I will receive, so i doubt they care. After pledging...

To the Scion 2E kickstarter, I learned how abusive they are to their freelancers, how they take advantage of them, and how they have a long history of protecting and defending rapists and abusers. Also as noted, none of this ire is directed at you, Social Media Person...

Unless the social media person is in fact Richard Thomas or some other person of his caliber of awfulness, in which case, it very much is. Because Y I K E S, you are an absolutely awful person, Ricky. Anyway, this isn't about THAT. This is about their kickstarter to game...

Model, the second edition scion kickstarter and how they don't really care about their fanbase. Let's start by saying that pretty much any decent size product especially where White Wolf IP is concerned gets kickstarted by Onyx Path, its their primary funding source and...

it does it well. A lot of these take a LONG time to come out, but usually they come in pretty solid quality. Now don't get me wrong, I know any rpg book will be launched with typos. Small errors: spelling and grammar stuff. Things that get lost during layouts on accident...

However, the errata we got linked with a 3 page email telling us the books were printed and chock full of mistakes is pretty outrageous. I concede. What I initially thought was a 14 page errata includes updated character sheets, so not AS bad, but still pretty bad... we'll...

go over those shortly. But I do want to talk about, this situation and their funding model. All of these mistakes were discovered before the books even shipped, it put them in a bad position. PDF has been updated, and current POD books will be printed correctly, with the...

mistakes fixed. YOUR KICKSTARTER SUPPORTERS ARE YOUR PRIMARY INCOME AND DRIVING FORCE, we are *NOT* beta testers who are paying for the right to get an unpolished book. You fucked up and said, "whelp" these guys who got the game made get fucked, but anyone who comes by...

later... they'll get the polished, completed book!" Well Gee-Fucking-Gee. Why would anyone back your kickstarters if you are starting to sling this hot garbage at them and then letting the people coming by later to get the finished product? Bad form. Bad model... Anyway...

Lets take a little voyage over HOW badly this game got fucked.

SCION: ORIGIN
- First couple are, imo, perfectly valid for an rpg book. Old name for a stat never gets new name swapped. No conflicts with existing stats or terms, so i let that slide.

okay, im sorry, what? when im playing how many different books and erratas am i going to have reference to ensure I have the right information. Also I find it kind of odd that the default is the "Second" book in the set, not the "first. but seriously how hard is cut and paste?

This just gave me a chuckle. I assume Lugh is supposed to have the health purview. Honestly this is another one of those mildly understandable goof ups, and its funny A+ for Health Lugh

Okay im sorry... wait.. DID YOU FORGET AN ENTIRE FUCKING GOD? Like holy shit what? Man, I wish I had a book to reference this shit. (They already fixed the pdf so i have no way to compare) But that is fucking beautiful. An ENTIRE GOD, thats like... the point of the whole game...

Okay and there is a huge list of gods that have incorrect or missing purviews as noted, as noted by the "Appendix 2" errata posted above. like id understand some but holy shit there are a lot.

OKAY. On to SCION: HERO

Okay I can't what to get to one of the parts in here, but lets take this in order... Some grammar and spelling errors. aight. Centaur are not a type of satyr, glad they cleared that up... okay wait... This gods missing/having incorrect purviews...

is just bad. In the origin errata you had a huge thing, and a thing talking about defaulting to other books, and then here we are in Scion: Hero with further addendums. Like... you reprinted all the character sheets in here. I think you'd be better off just reprinting the....

entire section of gods. since I dont wanna spend all day cross referencing books and each books errata. Like jesus fucking christ. Here's more.

OKAY, Here we go. I love this one. "should be formatted as per the rest of the book" YOU INCORRECTLY FORMATTED AN ENTIRE SECTION OF THE BOOK?! Like.. HOW?! I can understand missing words, its all text, you didn't look at the fucking book and went "hm this sections fucked"?...

DID YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE DAMNED "FINAL" FILE BEFORE YOU SHIPPED IT OFF FOR PRINTING?!

LOL. This is abit smaller but still something that should have jumped out at you, EXPCIALLY the font difference?

I don't know what these are yet, but hopefully these two terms both don't exist in the system, and its a case of terms changing over production.

OKay, so lets wrap this up with a series of fun facts. I just spent some time going back through the Kickstarter (trying to find the Hero download)...

This game was 3 years in the making

Dec 2017 the book was in editing and May 2018 the book was in "layouts"

You got the first proof in fucking JULY of 2018?! You had a proof of the book for 10-fucking-months and all this shit STILL made it through? YOU FUCKING RAN GAMES WITH IT AT CONS? AND STILL DIDNT NOTICE THIS?

Anyway, Folks OPP is terrible. All the big wigs there are awful. The company as a whole has been complicit in so much bullshit and disgusting behavior. And now they shit on their main source of income. If the first doesnt bother you, maybe the second will. Support indie games.

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