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Thread of a non-exhaustive list of fictional works an/tis are not allowed to engage with as per their own bullshit rules, otherwise they are giant hypocrites. (Also, a list that hopefully will showcase why "I'm an an/ti bc I'm normal!!!1" is nonsense.)
Also, per /their/ rules, an/tis are also not allowed to associate themselves with anyone who engages with these in a positive way.
(I am going to list the 'crimes,' but note that these are 'an/ti-defined crimes.')
(I am going to list the 'crimes,' but note that these are 'an/ti-defined crimes.')
1) Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire
Crimes: Depictions of Incest (Targaryens, Lannister twins), pedophilia (book - Dany/Drogo; show - Margarey seducing Tommen; both - adulthood for girls is said to begin with a girl's period), Rape, Abusive Relationships
Crimes: Depictions of Incest (Targaryens, Lannister twins), pedophilia (book - Dany/Drogo; show - Margarey seducing Tommen; both - adulthood for girls is said to begin with a girl's period), Rape, Abusive Relationships
2) IT (and by extension, anything by Stephen King)
Crimes: Pedophilia/Underage sexuality (sewer sex scene); child abuse
Crimes: Pedophilia/Underage sexuality (sewer sex scene); child abuse
3) ATLA
Crimes: Portrayal of an age gap in an underage relationship (Katara and Aang are 14 and 12, respectively - they date and then get married, meaning there will be a time where Katara is 18 while Aang is 16); villain redemption
Crimes: Portrayal of an age gap in an underage relationship (Katara and Aang are 14 and 12, respectively - they date and then get married, meaning there will be a time where Katara is 18 while Aang is 16); villain redemption
4) The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Crimes: Depiction of Rape
Crimes: Depiction of Rape
5) It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Crimes: Incest (McPoyles, subtextual Dee/Dennis at times), Sexual Predators as main characters (Dennis), revenge schemes involving sexual aspects, etc. There's a lot here.
Crimes: Incest (McPoyles, subtextual Dee/Dennis at times), Sexual Predators as main characters (Dennis), revenge schemes involving sexual aspects, etc. There's a lot here.
6) Parks and Recreation
Crimes: Age gap relationship of more than 5 years (Andy is 29 to April's 20 when they meet)
Crimes: Age gap relationship of more than 5 years (Andy is 29 to April's 20 when they meet)
7) Devilman Crybaby
Crimes: Underage sexuality/pedophilia (Akira is 16 and has sex in a battle and goes to a club with a lot of sex and drug use), abusive relationship (Akira and Ryo), more.
Crimes: Underage sexuality/pedophilia (Akira is 16 and has sex in a battle and goes to a club with a lot of sex and drug use), abusive relationship (Akira and Ryo), more.
8) Kill la Kill
Crimes: Underage sexuality (Ryuko is 17), incestual rape (Ragyo to Satsuki)
Crimes: Underage sexuality (Ryuko is 17), incestual rape (Ragyo to Satsuki)
9) The Hunger Games
Crimes: Underage sexuality (Katniss and Peeta are forced into a romance for the sake of survival at the behest of adult viewers; both are 16 and basically almost have sex on camera); child murder (this doesn't seem to bother an/tis, but I'm putting it anyway)
Crimes: Underage sexuality (Katniss and Peeta are forced into a romance for the sake of survival at the behest of adult viewers; both are 16 and basically almost have sex on camera); child murder (this doesn't seem to bother an/tis, but I'm putting it anyway)
10) South Park
Crimes: Where to start lol - underage sexuality, pedophilia, abusive relationships...basically everything you can think of. I'm putting it mainly bc I have seen many an/tis who happily watch SP.
Crimes: Where to start lol - underage sexuality, pedophilia, abusive relationships...basically everything you can think of. I'm putting it mainly bc I have seen many an/tis who happily watch SP.
11) Tangled
Crimes: Age gap of more than 5 years (Rapunzel turns 18 during the movie; Eugene is 26).
Crimes: Age gap of more than 5 years (Rapunzel turns 18 during the movie; Eugene is 26).
12) The Little Mermaid
Crimes: Pedophilia/Age gap where one is under 18 (Ariel is 16; Eric is 18). They get married at these ages, and the sequel further implies that Ariel became pregnant at 16-17.
Crimes: Pedophilia/Age gap where one is under 18 (Ariel is 16; Eric is 18). They get married at these ages, and the sequel further implies that Ariel became pregnant at 16-17.
13) The Handmaid's Tale
Crimes: Depiction of Rape (and this is /shown/), pedophilia (women are married and 'rewarded' to men at a young age)
Crimes: Depiction of Rape (and this is /shown/), pedophilia (women are married and 'rewarded' to men at a young age)
14) Twilight series (not as popular as it once was, but still deserves a spot on this list)
Crimes: Underage relationship; age gap of more than 5 years; pedophilia (specifically, the imprinting on an infant)
Crimes: Underage relationship; age gap of more than 5 years; pedophilia (specifically, the imprinting on an infant)
15) The Flash
Crimes: Pseudo-Incest (again, this is per an/ti definition; Barry and Iris are raised together but later get together)
Crimes: Pseudo-Incest (again, this is per an/ti definition; Barry and Iris are raised together but later get together)
16) Sailor Moon
Crimes: Underage relationship/pedophilia (Mamoru is 17; Usagi is 14); sexualization of minors (again, per an/ti definition: sailor outfits are too revealing per their standards)
Crimes: Underage relationship/pedophilia (Mamoru is 17; Usagi is 14); sexualization of minors (again, per an/ti definition: sailor outfits are too revealing per their standards)
17) Neon Genesis Evangelion
Crimes: Pedophilia/Underage Sexuality (Shinji is 14 and masturbates over Asuka's unconscious body; plenty of sexual subtext between Shinji and Misato, who is 29; Asuka (13) trying to seduce Kaji, her guardian (30))
Crimes: Pedophilia/Underage Sexuality (Shinji is 14 and masturbates over Asuka's unconscious body; plenty of sexual subtext between Shinji and Misato, who is 29; Asuka (13) trying to seduce Kaji, her guardian (30))
18) Hellsing Ultimate
Crimes: Necrophilia (explicitly shown), sexual violence, explicit depiction of pedophilic rape (Alucard as a child)
Crimes: Necrophilia (explicitly shown), sexual violence, explicit depiction of pedophilic rape (Alucard as a child)
19) Fire Emblem (specifically - Awakening, Fates, Genealogy of the Holy War)
Crimes: Incest and Pseudo-Incest (can marry adopted siblings; Deidre and Arvis are married half-siblings), pseudo-pedophilia (can marry characters who look young but are very old, like Nowi)
Crimes: Incest and Pseudo-Incest (can marry adopted siblings; Deidre and Arvis are married half-siblings), pseudo-pedophilia (can marry characters who look young but are very old, like Nowi)
20) Berserk
Crimes: A lot. Sexual violence and explicit rape (lots of it), sexual slavery, pedophilia (sold into sexual slavery as children), (almost) beastiality (...horse), demonic orgies, and way more.
Crimes: A lot. Sexual violence and explicit rape (lots of it), sexual slavery, pedophilia (sold into sexual slavery as children), (almost) beastiality (...horse), demonic orgies, and way more.
21) CLAMP works in general
Crimes: Abusive relationships (Subaru/Seishirou), pedophilia and teacher-student (Rika and Terada in the original CCS; I believe it has been removed since but it was still there at some point), incest (Freya -> Mihara, Tomoyo -> Sakura)
Crimes: Abusive relationships (Subaru/Seishirou), pedophilia and teacher-student (Rika and Terada in the original CCS; I believe it has been removed since but it was still there at some point), incest (Freya -> Mihara, Tomoyo -> Sakura)
22) Dexter
Crimes: Age gap of more than 5 years (Debra and Lundy); (pseudo) incest (Deb had feelings for Dexter in later seasons); abusive relationships; rape (Lumen Pierce's backstory)
Crimes: Age gap of more than 5 years (Debra and Lundy); (pseudo) incest (Deb had feelings for Dexter in later seasons); abusive relationships; rape (Lumen Pierce's backstory)
23) Arrested Development
Crimes: Pseudo-incest (George-Michael crushes on Maeby while thinking she is his blood cousin; they were raised as such), age-gap relationships of more than 5 years (Buster and Gob with Lucille 2), incest subtext played for laughs (Lucille and Buster)
Crimes: Pseudo-incest (George-Michael crushes on Maeby while thinking she is his blood cousin; they were raised as such), age-gap relationships of more than 5 years (Buster and Gob with Lucille 2), incest subtext played for laughs (Lucille and Buster)
24) Yuri on Ice
Crimes: Mentor-Protege relationship (with a 4 year age gap), underage sexuality (welcome to the madness), written by a fuj/oshi (pretty sure I've seen Ku/bo identified as one, lmk if I'm incorrect and I'll adjust this entry)
Crimes: Mentor-Protege relationship (with a 4 year age gap), underage sexuality (welcome to the madness), written by a fuj/oshi (pretty sure I've seen Ku/bo identified as one, lmk if I'm incorrect and I'll adjust this entry)
25) Hannibal (ty @mintycel!)
Crimes: Power Imbalanced relationship (psychiatrist and his patient), abusive/manipulative relationship, cannibalism and murder (though that does not seem to bother them so much)
Crimes: Power Imbalanced relationship (psychiatrist and his patient), abusive/manipulative relationship, cannibalism and murder (though that does not seem to bother them so much)
26) Umbrella Academy (ty @angmerican!)
Crimes: (Pseudo) incest (Romantic relationship between Allison and Luther, who are adoptive siblings)
Crimes: (Pseudo) incest (Romantic relationship between Allison and Luther, who are adoptive siblings)
27) The Ancient Magus' Bride
Crimes: Pedophilia/Age Gap/Power Imbalance (Chise is a 15 year old student engaged to Elias - a centuries old eldritch abomination who bought her after she sold herself), huge size difference (yes, this has been seriously used as an anti argument)
Crimes: Pedophilia/Age Gap/Power Imbalance (Chise is a 15 year old student engaged to Elias - a centuries old eldritch abomination who bought her after she sold herself), huge size difference (yes, this has been seriously used as an anti argument)
28) Star Wars (ty to a few of you!)
Crimes: Incest (Luke and Leia kiss, although they do not know at the time), villain redemption (Anakin/Vader; potentially Kylo Ren), age gap of 5+ years where they met as children (Padme and Anakin met at 14 and 9, later get married)
Crimes: Incest (Luke and Leia kiss, although they do not know at the time), villain redemption (Anakin/Vader; potentially Kylo Ren), age gap of 5+ years where they met as children (Padme and Anakin met at 14 and 9, later get married)
29) Banana Fish (ty @cinnaminnt !)
Crimes: Age gap where one is under 18 (Ash is 17; Eiji is 19), pseudo-incest (they refer to each other as brothers), pedophilia (Ash is a victim at the age of 7), rape, written by a fuj/oshi (I believe I have seen author described as such)
Crimes: Age gap where one is under 18 (Ash is 17; Eiji is 19), pseudo-incest (they refer to each other as brothers), pedophilia (Ash is a victim at the age of 7), rape, written by a fuj/oshi (I believe I have seen author described as such)
30) Final Fantasy XV (ty @cerezoJean1!)
Crimes: Arranged marriage + age gap where they met as children and havent seen each other since (Luna is 12 & Noctis 8; they don't see each other again before their engagement at 24 and 20); pseudo-incest for fanon ships between the bros
Crimes: Arranged marriage + age gap where they met as children and havent seen each other since (Luna is 12 & Noctis 8; they don't see each other again before their engagement at 24 and 20); pseudo-incest for fanon ships between the bros
31) Old-school Disney (ty @goddessarashi!) (I know TLM is up there already but here's the umbrella)
Crimes: Age gaps/pedophilia (princesses are younger than their princes; often under 18 (16 is popular)) while princes are a few years older, dub-con (Sleeping Beauty, Snow White)
Crimes: Age gaps/pedophilia (princesses are younger than their princes; often under 18 (16 is popular)) while princes are a few years older, dub-con (Sleeping Beauty, Snow White)
32) Greek Mythology in general (and, by extension, things based on them) (ty @wingneery!)
Crimes: So...so many. Rape, kidnapping, torture, dubious consent, beastiality, incest, age gaps, etc., etc. lbr Zeus especially was a real asshole who just got around.
Crimes: So...so many. Rape, kidnapping, torture, dubious consent, beastiality, incest, age gaps, etc., etc. lbr Zeus especially was a real asshole who just got around.
33) Fullmetal Alchemist (Brotherhood) (ty @Snepblep!)
Crimes: Pseudo-Incest (Ed and Winry are raised together after his mom dies and he calls her his sister at one point; they later get married), villain redemption, age gap (Hohenheim is centuries old when he marries Trisha)
Crimes: Pseudo-Incest (Ed and Winry are raised together after his mom dies and he calls her his sister at one point; they later get married), villain redemption, age gap (Hohenheim is centuries old when he marries Trisha)
