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Jews, the Christian Zionist endgame is Armageddon/ bringing the end times, during which they believe we will not be saved. We’re a tool to help them get there. Even if you like their “support for Israel” (I don’t, it’s pro-Occupation), you are cannon fodder to them. 1/x https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/1078298857434501120

What fascinates me is the ultra-Orthodox Jews who ally with them, which I think can be read as both groups using each other. Christian Zionists thinking the Jews will help hasten the Rapture and they’ll get zapped, that’s fine.

Jews thinking, like, obvs the Rapture won’t happen, but this is great for helping Israel make the Occupation permanent (and, depending on their theology, maybe will hasten the Messiah-who-is-not-Jesus coming and they don’t really care where non-Jews fall in that equation.)

Anyway. Christian Zionists often appropriate our stuff and make Big Jewish Noise but they are not our friends, do not wish us well. (NB Christian Zionism is a movement, a thing, I don’t mean just “Christians who happen to believe the State of Israel should exist in whatever way”)

They wish us ill, they wish queers and trans folks and probably most POC ill (never mind Jews who are also queer &/or Black etc etc), they, unlike the guy they claim to follow, do not bring love and compassion to the world.

They are dangerous & they are running this country.

For those of you talking about how some Jews will be "saved," aka convert to Christianity, won't get killed--my friends, you misunderstand if you think that's better. It's roughly same difference viz valuing Jews and our humanity, autonomy, faith. We only matter if we convert.

We have a whole martyrology literature around “sanctifying God’s name,” aka preferring death to forced conversion.

The Yom Kippur liturgy incl. language specifying explicitly that we’ll let those who pretended to convert under duress to pray with us--bc it wasn't obvious that the answer was yes. In fact, the Kol Nidre prayer may be a formula to annul those conversions. “Saved” isn’t better.

We didn’t survive the Inquisition and the Crusades and all those expulsions and pogroms and the Holocaust just to give up at this so-called end. Not gonna happen.

End of the world can come & go & there’ll still be a couple of Jews somewhere in some corner studying Torah.

I'll say this again, more slowly, here: #NotAllChrisitians are trying to manipulate Jews to bring the end times and don’t care if they’re obliterated (whether death or conversion) in the process. I’m talking about a very. specific. movement. here. Christian Zionist Evangelicals.

This eschatological theology we've been discussing depends on supersessionism, which is inherently antisemitic. But also this particular branch of toxic Christian Zionist Evangelicals is also not the only place where supersessionism/replacement theology shows up.

So if you are Christian and reading this thread it would be a good and helpful form of allyship to Jews to interrogate the places where it might show up in your own community's thinking, and to do some grappling with that. Even if you're not actively trying to bring the Rapture.

PS Some versions of this Evangelical end-times involves a massive war, battle of Armageddon-type stuff. Some would welcome the outbreak of war in I/P in anticipation of it bringing all of this to a head.

And of course care and concern for Palestinians is totally absent from these scenarios.