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                        There appears to be some audio issues on the feed, with the Trustees microphones. Hopefully this doesn’t impact the meeting too much
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Chair is proposing to move the response to last weeks delegates to after the actual motion vote.
Trustee Iantomassi and Trustee De Rosa opposes it
#hcdsb #lgbtq #onted
                    
                                    
                    Trustee Iantomassi and Trustee De Rosa opposes it
#hcdsb #lgbtq #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee Iantomassi says the agenda is biased and the bylaws have not been approved. Says there has not been full disclosure of the last meeting. Says this meeting is illegal in his opinion. Puts a motion that the approval of the agenda will require 2/3 majority   #hcdsb   #onted
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Chair Murphy says that the parliamentarian said that the meeting is in keeping with bylaws.
Iantomassi says that full disclosure of all letters and materials were not presented at the last meeting.
Murphy rules that all the correspondence has been added. He has ruled.
                    
                                    
                    Iantomassi says that full disclosure of all letters and materials were not presented at the last meeting.
Murphy rules that all the correspondence has been added. He has ruled.
                        
                        
                        Iantomassi wants to know how many pieces of correspondence was included. Said that 200 were submitted, but that they received 700.
Murphy says he’s ruled and that Iantomassi wants to appeal
They are now voting on that.
#hcdsb #onted #lgbt #pride
                    
                                    
                    Murphy says he’s ruled and that Iantomassi wants to appeal
They are now voting on that.
#hcdsb #onted #lgbt #pride
                        
                        
                        Murphy says the agenda is lawful, Iantomassi says it is not
Trustees are now voting on this.
Trustees vote in favour of the agenda, Iantomassi’s appeal fails
                    
                                    
                    
                    
                                    
                    Trustees are now voting on this.
Trustees vote in favour of the agenda, Iantomassi’s appeal fails
                        
                        
                        Trustees are responding the delegations that were presented at last weeks meeting.
Trustee O’Brien puts forward a motion that only the Canadian flag will fly at schools and board office.
Trustee Iantomassi seconds
                    
                                    
                    Trustee O’Brien puts forward a motion that only the Canadian flag will fly at schools and board office.
Trustee Iantomassi seconds
                        
                        
                        Chair Murphy says that there is another items that takes precedent over that motion.
OBrien wants the Parliamentarian ruling on that.
The Parliamentarian agrees with Chair Murphy
#hcdsb #onted #lgbtq
                    
                                    
                    OBrien wants the Parliamentarian ruling on that.
The Parliamentarian agrees with Chair Murphy
#hcdsb #onted #lgbtq
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien is appealing the ruling and we go to another recorded vote.
Trustee Iantomassi wants clarification on the Parliamentarians ruling.
Trustees vote to oppose the appeal. The appeal fails
                    
                                    
                    Trustee Iantomassi wants clarification on the Parliamentarians ruling.
Trustees vote to oppose the appeal. The appeal fails
                        
                        
                        Trustee Duarte puts a motion to accept the first delegations as information.
Trustee O’Hearn seconds
Trustees vote in favour.
#hcdsb #lgbtq #pride #onted
                    
                                    
                    Trustee O’Hearn seconds
Trustees vote in favour.
#hcdsb #lgbtq #pride #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustees O’Brien now makes a point of order that the Order wasn’t read to the assembly
Parliamentarian says that the motion was on the table at the last meeting, it wasn’t gotten to as the last meeting ended
There is precedent that the motion remains on the agenda.
#hcdsb
                    
                                    
                    Parliamentarian says that the motion was on the table at the last meeting, it wasn’t gotten to as the last meeting ended
There is precedent that the motion remains on the agenda.
#hcdsb
                        
                        
                        Trustee Iantomassi appeals this ruling as well.
Trustee Iantomassi is now relying on the fact that they never got to the agenda point of the flag in the last meeting due to the ending, so it cannot be considered read into the record at this meeting.
Trustees vote appeal down
                    
                                    
                    Trustee Iantomassi is now relying on the fact that they never got to the agenda point of the flag in the last meeting due to the ending, so it cannot be considered read into the record at this meeting.
Trustees vote appeal down
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien is now saying that Roberts Rules of Orders means that the motion needs to be actually read.
Chair Murphy is relying again on Parliamentarian Kapoors decision.
#hcdsb #lgbtq #pride #onted
                    
                                    
                    Chair Murphy is relying again on Parliamentarian Kapoors decision.
#hcdsb #lgbtq #pride #onted
                        
                        
                        Chair Murphy upholds the ruling.
Trustee Duarte moves to accept the next delegation as information.
Trustee O’Hearn seconds
Trustees vote to accept it as information
                    
                                    
                    Trustee Duarte moves to accept the next delegation as information.
Trustee O’Hearn seconds
Trustees vote to accept it as information
                        
                        
                        Trustee Duarte vote to accept delegation 3 as information.
Trustee O’Hearn seconds
Trustees vote to carry the motion
                    
                                    
                    Trustee O’Hearn seconds
Trustees vote to carry the motion
                        
                        
                        Trustee Duarte moves to accept delegation 4 as information
Trustee OHearn seconds the motion
Trustees vote in favour
                    
                                    
                    Trustee OHearn seconds the motion
Trustees vote in favour
                        
                        
                        Trustee Duarte moves to accept Delegation 5 as information
O’Hearn seconds
Trustees vote in favour of accepting.
                    
                                    
                    O’Hearn seconds
Trustees vote in favour of accepting.
                        
                        
                        Moving on to the actual Pride Flag motion now 
Trustee O’Brien objects to the consideration of the question. Karabela wants a parliamentary clarification.
Parliamentarian says it requires a two thirds vote against.
                    
                                    
                    Trustee O’Brien objects to the consideration of the question. Karabela wants a parliamentary clarification.
Parliamentarian says it requires a two thirds vote against.
                        
                        
                        No seconded needed and requires a 2/3 vote. So 6 votes would need to be against consideration.
Karabela wants clarification of the implications of the objection.
                    
                                    
                    Karabela wants clarification of the implications of the objection.
                        
                        
                        Parliamentarian Kapoor says if it carries then the motion is dismissed for this session.
O’Brien wants to know if the vote goes through will this appear on the minutes?
Parliamentarian advises that the vote would be recorded.
#hcdsb #onted #lgbtq #pride
                    
                                    
                    O’Brien wants to know if the vote goes through will this appear on the minutes?
Parliamentarian advises that the vote would be recorded.
#hcdsb #onted #lgbtq #pride
                        
                        
                        Trustee Guzzo wants to be clear on what she’s voting on.
Parliamentarian Kapoor explains that the objection to consideration purpose is to avoid the motion as its too controversial for this session.
This would be dropped, and so it would need to be brought forward again.
                    
                                    
                    Parliamentarian Kapoor explains that the objection to consideration purpose is to avoid the motion as its too controversial for this session.
This would be dropped, and so it would need to be brought forward again.
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Hearn wants clarification on the reasoning for bring this objection forward.
Parliamentarian says this is to avoid a main motion altogether as the person believes strongly it is wrong for it to come before teh assembly
#hcdsb #pride #onted
                    
                                    
                    Parliamentarian says this is to avoid a main motion altogether as the person believes strongly it is wrong for it to come before teh assembly
#hcdsb #pride #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustees are now going to vote on whether or not the PRIDE flag motion will be considered.
#hcdsb #onted #PRIDE
                    
                                    
                    
                    
                                    
                    #hcdsb #onted #PRIDE
                        
                        
                        Chair Murphy is seeking consensus to lift time limits on debate for this item.
Chair Murphy says there is no consensus so debates will be limited to 3 minutes
#hcdsb #onted #PRIDE #lgbtq
                    
                                    
                    
                    
                                    
                    Chair Murphy says there is no consensus so debates will be limited to 3 minutes
#hcdsb #onted #PRIDE #lgbtq
                        
                        
                        Trustee Agnew speaks in favour of the motion. 
Says this isn’t about political posturing, but about saving student lives. Cites facts of suicide rates of #LGBTQ students.
After reading the correspondence submitted she is committed to passing this resolution.
#hcdsb #PRIDE
                    
                                    
                    Says this isn’t about political posturing, but about saving student lives. Cites facts of suicide rates of #LGBTQ students.
After reading the correspondence submitted she is committed to passing this resolution.
#hcdsb #PRIDE
                        
                        
                        Points out the other days of highlighting indigenous students, land acknowledgment and disabilities that didn’t bring up the same contention that this motion did.
Makes the argument that the #PRIDE Flags colours are about equality and support #hcdsb #onted
                    
                                    
                    Makes the argument that the #PRIDE Flags colours are about equality and support #hcdsb #onted
                        
                        
                        Agnew says not raising the flag sends the message to   #lgbtq students that we do not care nor accept them and want them to stay in the closet
#hcdsb #PRIDE #onted
                    
                                    
                    #hcdsb #PRIDE #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Hearn is up next:
She puts forward a motion to amend on the main motion
                    
                                    
                    She puts forward a motion to amend on the main motion
                        
                        
                        We are waiting to make sure that it was actually received
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Okay here we go again:
Trustee OHearn motions to strike the Raising the Pride Flag part of the motion.
And the BITR as written to replace it with a new BITR
                    
                                    
                    Trustee OHearn motions to strike the Raising the Pride Flag part of the motion.
And the BITR as written to replace it with a new BITR
                        
                        
                        This BITR and BITFR goes to include training for leadership staff in accordance with the Ontario Human Rights Code, that the schools go to create safe spaces, and taht the staff raise awareness for PRIDE month.
This is a lot of changes to the motion. I can’t keep up with it all
                    
                                    
                    This is a lot of changes to the motion. I can’t keep up with it all
                        
                        
                        Chair Murphy is asking to run through it again to clarify it all.
Trustee O’Brien has asked for it to be sent to them for review
Trustee Duarte seconds the motion.
                    
                                    
                    Trustee O’Brien has asked for it to be sent to them for review
Trustee Duarte seconds the motion.
                        
                        
                        Trustee Iantomassi moves to break the propositions into parts so that they can be dealt with separately. Says they are confusing.
Chair asks if this is possible of the Parliamentarian Kapoor.
Kapoor is reviewing it now to see if this is teh case.
#hcdsb #PRIDE #lgbtq
                    
                                    
                    Chair asks if this is possible of the Parliamentarian Kapoor.
Kapoor is reviewing it now to see if this is teh case.
#hcdsb #PRIDE #lgbtq
                        
                        
                        Kapoor says that separation would be difficult. The motion could be analysed clause by clause but you couldn’t vote on each clause. The vote on a whole would have to be on the amendment as a whole.
Kapoor is laying out the process of how this will proceed.
                    
                                    
                    Kapoor is laying out the process of how this will proceed.
                        
                        
                        This could go line by line on the proposed amendments.
Trustee Iantomassi’s point of order is accepted by the CHair and so they will review each amendment point by point
                    
                                    
                    Trustee Iantomassi’s point of order is accepted by the CHair and so they will review each amendment point by point
                        
                        
                        Trustee Iantomassi says there are three distinct proposition in the amendment.
Parliamentarian suggested to review clause by clause for this purpose.
Iantomassi says that they do not clarify, but add to the original motion.
#hcdsb #onted #PRIDE
                    
                                    
                    Parliamentarian suggested to review clause by clause for this purpose.
Iantomassi says that they do not clarify, but add to the original motion.
#hcdsb #onted #PRIDE
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Hearn speaks to her amendment
The motion has created sides in the school community. But its time to make a change. In this amendment she feels its taking a step forward in action.
If one student feels safe in their schools its one too many in her mind.
                    
                                    
                    The motion has created sides in the school community. But its time to make a change. In this amendment she feels its taking a step forward in action.
If one student feels safe in their schools its one too many in her mind.
                        
                        
                        Trustee Guzzo wants to amend back in the the proposed BITR to fly the PRIDE flag during the month of June 2021
Trustee Agnew seconds it
Trustee O’Brien says that you can’t substitute as the amendment was to strike out.
                    
                                    
                    Trustee Agnew seconds it
Trustee O’Brien says that you can’t substitute as the amendment was to strike out.
                        
                        
                        Chair Murphy asks for clarification from Parliamentarian and says its okay to proceed as is
O’Brien appeals the decision so we go to another vote
                    
                                    
                    O’Brien appeals the decision so we go to another vote
                        
                        
                        Trustees vote on the appeal now
Karabela was disconnected and we are waiting on her decision for the vote.
Trustee Guzzo makes a point of order to call the vote as there appears to be a strategy of delaying on some Trustees
Chair Murphy says its in appropriate to say that
                    
                                    
                    Karabela was disconnected and we are waiting on her decision for the vote.
Trustee Guzzo makes a point of order to call the vote as there appears to be a strategy of delaying on some Trustees
Chair Murphy says its in appropriate to say that
                        
                        
                        Trustee Karabela appears to no longer be online.
Trustee O’Brien requests to take a five minute recess
Chair Murphy says we need to vote on it
Trustee Karabela is trying to chime in but is definitely having some connection issues.
                    
                                    
                    
                    
                                    
                    Trustee O’Brien requests to take a five minute recess
Chair Murphy says we need to vote on it
Trustee Karabela is trying to chime in but is definitely having some connection issues.
                        
                        
                        Back to Trustee Guzzo’s Amendment
Guzzo speaks that kids are entrusted to the board to make a safe space for them. How can teh board ignore them when they say that they do not feel safe?
Says the Bible was not written to cause harm, but thats what it is happening
#hcdsb
                    
                                    
                    Guzzo speaks that kids are entrusted to the board to make a safe space for them. How can teh board ignore them when they say that they do not feel safe?
Says the Bible was not written to cause harm, but thats what it is happening
#hcdsb
                        
                        
                        This meeting is getting mired in amendments and procedural over the simple motion to raise the   #PRIDE flag
#hcdsb #lgbtq #onted
                    
                                    
                    #hcdsb #lgbtq #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee Kelly thanks Guzzo for re adding it to the amendment.
The motion is epitome of the #hcdsb maxim of Achieving believing and belonging.
Says the Diocese has show support for the motion
#lgbtq #PRIDE #onted
                    
                                    
                    The motion is epitome of the #hcdsb maxim of Achieving believing and belonging.
Says the Diocese has show support for the motion
#lgbtq #PRIDE #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee Kelly makes the point that here petition has reached over 15,000 signatures.
She says she speaks as a member of the 2SLGBTQ+ community. Does it make her any less of a catholic?
#hcdsb #lgbtq #PRIDE #onted
                    
                                    
                    She says she speaks as a member of the 2SLGBTQ+ community. Does it make her any less of a catholic?
#hcdsb #lgbtq #PRIDE #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien wants to make an amendment to this amendment.
Parliamentarian Kapoor says its already a secondary amendment and tertiary amendments not allowed
O’Brien says to Guzzo why did she include the CEC in her amendment?
                    
                                    
                    Parliamentarian Kapoor says its already a secondary amendment and tertiary amendments not allowed
O’Brien says to Guzzo why did she include the CEC in her amendment?
                        
                        
                        Trustee DeRosa asks to submit an amendment to clear up all the amendments. When can he do that?
Chair Murphy says when we get back to the main motion (When that will be who knows?)
Parliamentarian Kapoor says it has to be to O’Hearns Amendment.
#hcdsb #PRIDE #onted
                    
                                    
                    Chair Murphy says when we get back to the main motion (When that will be who knows?)
Parliamentarian Kapoor says it has to be to O’Hearns Amendment.
#hcdsb #PRIDE #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee Agnew speaks:
She is fully in support of flying the flag and is in support of the amendment. It’s not perfect but it’s a great starting spot.
Says Thunder Bay Catholic and Waterloo Catholic Boards will fly the #PRIDE flag at their schools
#hcdsb #onted
                    
                                    
                    She is fully in support of flying the flag and is in support of the amendment. It’s not perfect but it’s a great starting spot.
Says Thunder Bay Catholic and Waterloo Catholic Boards will fly the #PRIDE flag at their schools
#hcdsb #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee Iantomassi wants to commend Trustee Kelly.
But wants to emphasise the Halton Catholic ratepayers
He is basically refuting all the points Trustee Kelly has made. Quite emphatically and emotionally.
It should be pointed out Trustee Kelly is a high school student.
#hcdsb
                    
                                    
                    But wants to emphasise the Halton Catholic ratepayers
He is basically refuting all the points Trustee Kelly has made. Quite emphatically and emotionally.
It should be pointed out Trustee Kelly is a high school student.
#hcdsb
                        
                        
                        Trustee Iantomassi is taking about two or three minutes to take apart Trustee Kelly’s emotional appeal.
He’s going back to the original motion to flag only the Canadian flag that failed at the start of the meeting.
#hcdsb #lgbtq #PRIDE #onted
                    
                                    
                    He’s going back to the original motion to flag only the Canadian flag that failed at the start of the meeting.
#hcdsb #lgbtq #PRIDE #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee Iantomassi is now going into logistical issues and financial problems of paying for the flags.
Says the board is in no position to deal with this at this time
Moves a motion to postpone the motion til when staff can provide sufficient information.
#hcdsb #onted #PRIDE
                    
                                    
                    Says the board is in no position to deal with this at this time
Moves a motion to postpone the motion til when staff can provide sufficient information.
#hcdsb #onted #PRIDE
                        
                        
                        Trustee Iantomassi is asking to postpone now until a policy can be determined that includes costing, of the flag and a secondary pole, a policy that deals with competing groups for the same month, who has priority.
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        We are now talking about the timeline for the board staff to get this information back to them.
Parliamentarian says that postponing the motion past the month of June is out of order. He made the mistake earlier.
Chair Murphy rules that Iantomassi’s request is out of order.
                    
                                    
                    Parliamentarian says that postponing the motion past the month of June is out of order. He made the mistake earlier.
Chair Murphy rules that Iantomassi’s request is out of order.
                        
                        
                        Right now there is about 20 min left in the meeting to figure out O’Hearn’s amendment and then then incorporate it into the original motion and then vote on the   #PRIDE flag motion.
#hcdsb #onted
                    
                                    
                    #hcdsb #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee Guzzo is saying that the purpose of the motion is to send a message that every one of every background is welcome at the   #hcdsb 
#lgbtq #onted
                    
                                    
                    #lgbtq #onted
                        
                        
                        Moving to a recorded vote on Trustee Guzzo’s amendment to O’Hearn’s Amendment to the   #PRIDE flag motion 
Trustee Karabela appears to be on the phone as the vote is called
Going back to her for a vote and no answer.
#hcdsb #onted #lgbtq
                    
                                    
                    Trustee Karabela appears to be on the phone as the vote is called
Going back to her for a vote and no answer.
#hcdsb #onted #lgbtq
                        
                        
                        Trustee DeRosa suggests calling a recess
Guzzo asks, can you call a vote in the middle of a vote
Iantomassi chimes that you cannot
Kapoor says that you cannot.
Murphy votes against.
                    
                                    
                    Guzzo asks, can you call a vote in the middle of a vote
Iantomassi chimes that you cannot
Kapoor says that you cannot.
Murphy votes against.
                        
                        
                        Back to O’Hearn’s amendment with 10 minutes to go
Trustee Duarte is speaking now in regards to the diversity of the board.
He says he’s heard from many parents and stakeholders in Milton, majority were in favour.
Says he wants to see all students welcomed at the #HCDSB
                    
                                    
                    Trustee Duarte is speaking now in regards to the diversity of the board.
He says he’s heard from many parents and stakeholders in Milton, majority were in favour.
Says he wants to see all students welcomed at the #HCDSB
                        
                        
                        Duarte supports the amendment
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Trustee Iantomassi speaks to thank all stakeholders who’ve spoken to this matter.
He’s going back to the Canadian flag motion that has failed twice already tonight.
Now says its illegal to fly two or more flags on the same pole.
Citing section 29 of the Charter now
                    
                                    
                    He’s going back to the Canadian flag motion that has failed twice already tonight.
Now says its illegal to fly two or more flags on the same pole.
Citing section 29 of the Charter now
                        
                        
                        Trustee DeRosa up now:
Proposes an amendment to O’Hearns amendment
This amendment is looking to replace the whole motion with a motion to review all equity and inclusion programs in the #hcdsb
#onted #lgbtq #PRIDE
                    
                                    
                    Proposes an amendment to O’Hearns amendment
This amendment is looking to replace the whole motion with a motion to review all equity and inclusion programs in the #hcdsb
#onted #lgbtq #PRIDE
                        
                        
                        De Rosas motion suggest flying a different flag from the   #PRIDE flag and proposes creating a separate flag unique to the   #hcdsb
#onted
                    
                                    
                    #onted
                        
                        
                        We need to vote to extend the meeting now 
Looks like we are continuing the meeting to 10:30 now
#hcdsb #onted #pride #lgbtq
                    
                                    
                    Looks like we are continuing the meeting to 10:30 now
#hcdsb #onted #pride #lgbtq
                        
                        
                        DeRosas amendment would replace O’Hearn’s amendment and this would go to the original motion proposed by Agnew
DeRosa speaks in favour of the motion. Says the debate is untimely due to COVID-19
This debate has created divisions in the Catholic board
#hcdsb #PRIDE #Onted
                    
                                    
                    DeRosa speaks in favour of the motion. Says the debate is untimely due to COVID-19
This debate has created divisions in the Catholic board
#hcdsb #PRIDE #Onted
                        
                        
                        He says he has tried to find the middle ground on this. Says hes heard from the silent majority as well as those in the   #lgbtq community.
Says the silent majority has not had a voice in this matter and that the board needs to poll that community
Wants to find a compromise
                    
                                    
                    Says the silent majority has not had a voice in this matter and that the board needs to poll that community
Wants to find a compromise
                        
                        
                        Says he’s heard bullying in the form of phrases like “you’re with us or against us”
Troubled by this terminology
Says the flag is only a symbolic gesture. It offers no long term plan to support #lgbtq kids.
#hcdsb #onted
                    
                                    
                    Troubled by this terminology
Says the flag is only a symbolic gesture. It offers no long term plan to support #lgbtq kids.
#hcdsb #onted
                        
                        
                        DeRosa brings up the risk of questioning the value of Catholic education in the public.
Admits that this motion will fall short but says it’ll be a first step to their inclusion into the #hcdsb community
                    
                                    
                    Admits that this motion will fall short but says it’ll be a first step to their inclusion into the #hcdsb community
                        
                        
                        Trustee Agnew speaks:
Says a lot of students were excited and hopeful that #hcdsb will fly the #PRIDE flag.
Says this may not go the way they wanted.
Cautions to the Trustees to fly any flag to recognized #PRIDE month it has to be the PRIDE flag.
                    
                                    
                    Says a lot of students were excited and hopeful that #hcdsb will fly the #PRIDE flag.
Says this may not go the way they wanted.
Cautions to the Trustees to fly any flag to recognized #PRIDE month it has to be the PRIDE flag.
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien wants to make an amendment now
Parliamentary Kapoor says this is a secondary amendment and cannot be amended
Chair Murphy says there needs to be consensus to accept it
O’Brien suggests striking the resolution to fly anything at all
#hcdsb #PRIDE
                    
                                    
                    Parliamentary Kapoor says this is a secondary amendment and cannot be amended
Chair Murphy says there needs to be consensus to accept it
O’Brien suggests striking the resolution to fly anything at all
#hcdsb #PRIDE
                        
                        
                        De Rosa is opposed so O’Briens suggestion is struck down.
O’Brien proposes to suspend the rule to this action
Iantomassi is asking for clarification on which bylaw
Chair Murphy calls for a seconder. No one steps up
This fails.
                    
                                    
                    O’Brien proposes to suspend the rule to this action
Iantomassi is asking for clarification on which bylaw
Chair Murphy calls for a seconder. No one steps up
This fails.
                        
                        
                        Trustee Guzzo is now discussing the definition of privilege of benefits of being a white CIS Gendered woman
#hcdsb #lgbtq #onted #PRIDE
                    
                                    
                    
                    
                                    
                    #hcdsb #lgbtq #onted #PRIDE
                        
                        
                        Trustee Kelly is going through the colours of the   #PRIDE Flag and each colours definition.
Now is comparing the rainbow to a symbol of God. Says replacing the flag is synonymous to saying ‘we accept you,…but…”
#lgbtq #hcdsb #onted
                    
                                    
                    Now is comparing the rainbow to a symbol of God. Says replacing the flag is synonymous to saying ‘we accept you,…but…”
#lgbtq #hcdsb #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee De Rosa closes that he feels for the plight of the   #lgbtq kids and all who are made to feel different and bullied.
Says he is struggling with the reluctance of students to accept this compromise flag. He is trying to find a middle ground. Admits its not an ideal point
                    
                                    
                    Says he is struggling with the reluctance of students to accept this compromise flag. He is trying to find a middle ground. Admits its not an ideal point
                        
                        
                        Says its a step forward to do more. He’d be happy to not fly any flag.
Says this is his middle ground. He is concerned of the political optics of flying a flag that represents only one minority group in #hcdsb schools
#lgbtq #pride #onted
                    
                                    
                    Says this is his middle ground. He is concerned of the political optics of flying a flag that represents only one minority group in #hcdsb schools
#lgbtq #pride #onted
                        
                        
                        DeRosa says this is his best foot forward at the moment.
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Chair Murphy is moving to the vote on DeRosas amendment
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Amendment fails
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Need to vote now to vote to continue the meeting
Needs to be unanimous
                    
                                    
                    Needs to be unanimous
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien opposes and so the motion fails
Now some confusion on how they have to finish the action item on teh PRIDE flag.
                    
                                    
                    Now some confusion on how they have to finish the action item on teh PRIDE flag.
                        
                        
                        Parliamentarian Kapoor says that the board needs to continue the meeting to finish the debate on the   #PRIDE flag.
And we are going back to O’Hearns original amendment
#PRIDE #HCDSB #onted
                    
                                    
                    And we are going back to O’Hearns original amendment
#PRIDE #HCDSB #onted
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien is now proposing an amendment to insert a point to include that it would fall under section 93 of the British North America Act.
De Rosa seconds it
#HCDSB #onted #PRIDE #LGBTQ
                    
                                    
                    De Rosa seconds it
#HCDSB #onted #PRIDE #LGBTQ
                        
                        
                        O’Brien says the reason to include the section on the British North America act. Now is confused about which document deals with the denominational rights. 
Has said he’s confused
                    
                                    
                    Has said he’s confused
                        
                        
                        O’Brien wants to insert it to protect denominational rights into the motion
No questions on it
Director Daly says Section 93 deals with the provincial powers. Thinks Trustee O’Brien is referring to section 19 specifically.
                    
                                    
                    No questions on it
Director Daly says Section 93 deals with the provincial powers. Thinks Trustee O’Brien is referring to section 19 specifically.
                        
                        
                        Just to be clear, we are now arguing over points of the British North America Act to be included in this motion.
O’Brien says Daly is right. But now wants to include section 19 of the Ontario Human Rights Code
Says it gives more weight to O’Hearns amendment
#hcdsb #onted
                    
                                    
                    O’Brien says Daly is right. But now wants to include section 19 of the Ontario Human Rights Code
Says it gives more weight to O’Hearns amendment
#hcdsb #onted
                        
                        
                        Now the vote
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Trustees vote the amendment down
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien has another amendment to propose.
Wants to remove the phrasing regarding safe space signage from O’Hearns amendment
Chair Murphy asks for a seconder
Trustee Iantomassi Seconds.
                    
                                    
                    Wants to remove the phrasing regarding safe space signage from O’Hearns amendment
Chair Murphy asks for a seconder
Trustee Iantomassi Seconds.
                        
                        
                        Says its a matter of consistency, that if we don’t fly the flag at the schools then we shouldn’t include signage in favour of the flag as well.
#hcdsb #PRIDE #onted #lgbtq
                    
                                    
                    #hcdsb #PRIDE #onted #lgbtq
                        
                        
                        And we go to a vote
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Trustees vote the amendment down
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien goes to the amendment by O’Hearn and proposes to postpone indefinitely
Ruled out of order
                    
                                    
                    Ruled out of order
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Hearn admits her amendment is disappointing to many and she wants to make change at the   #hcdsb
We now go to a vote
                    
                                    
                    We now go to a vote
                        
                        
                        Trustees vote to pass the amendment
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien has another amendment to the new motion
He wants to strike out the entire BITR of the new amendment. Essentially nothing in the new motion would survive.
Wants to replace it again with the sole Canadian flag motion that he proposed at the beginning
                    
                                    
                    He wants to strike out the entire BITR of the new amendment. Essentially nothing in the new motion would survive.
Wants to replace it again with the sole Canadian flag motion that he proposed at the beginning
                        
                        
                        NO seconder so it fails
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                        
                        
                        Trustee O’Brien is trying to move a motion to postpone the vote indefinitely
Chair Murphy says he called the vote.
Parliamentary Kapoor says it would be in order to accept this motion by O’Brien
                    
                                    
                    Chair Murphy says he called the vote.
Parliamentary Kapoor says it would be in order to accept this motion by O’Brien
                        
                        
                        This vote to postpone indefinitely is in order
No seconder of the motion so O’Briens motion fails
                    
                                    
                    No seconder of the motion so O’Briens motion fails
                        
                        
                        Motion goes to a vote now
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                                
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                    
                                    
                    
                    
                
                 
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